First Look and Review: Geyser Point Bar and Grill at Disney’s Wilderness Lodge

HELLOOOOO from Disney’s Wilderness Lodge!

We’re here to check out all the eats and drinks at the BRAND NEW Geyser Point Bar & Grill located near Silver Creek Springs Pool (the Resort’s main pool). This new spot blends right in with the Pacific Northwest feel of this beautiful Resort, and we’re happy to show you around!

By the way, this opening coincides with the temporary closure of Roaring Fork, a Counter Service option, and the permanent closure of Trout Pass Pool Bar. Roaring Fork will reopen later this year once their refurbishments are complete, but Trout Pass will be repurposed, with Geyser Point serving as the main pool bar for both pools.

Therefore, in its opening months, Geyser Point will be THE place for Counter Service breakfast, lunch, AND dinner at Wilderness Lodge (and Territory Lounge will serve continental breakfast options and coffee until 2 pm daily). But there’s more to it than that, as you’re about to see…

Wilderness Lodge Geyser Point Bar and Grill 2

Geyser Point Bar & Grill sign

… as you join us for our first trip to Geyser Point Bar & Grill!

Atmosphere

To find Geyser Point, just head outside towards the lake (and to the right of Trout Pass Pool Bar). That’s where your eyes will be treated to this brand new facade:

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

The plentiful stone and cedar offers a natural extension to the rustic feel of the Lodge, while also lending a refined atmosphere to the new space.

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

The overall effect is simultaneously simple and beautiful. And the spot makes the most of its location by the lake so you can take in some terrific views of the water.

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

Geyser Point Bar & Grill

The view

The view

In fact it was even cloudy on our opening day visit, which only helped that Pacific Northwest feel!

Pacific Northwest-themed clouds ;)

Pacific Northwest-themed clouds ;)

You can grab a seat at any one of the high back stools around the large bar area and just take in whatever is on TV (which, when we arrived, was airing park schedules and menu pictures; but regular stations can, of course, also be shown — and thus, my next Super Bowl viewing space ;-D ). Better yet, you can always chat with some of the stellar Wilderness Lodge Cast Members.

Bar area

Bar area

There is also table seating in abundance, with much of it lining the open air perimeter.

Wilderness Lodge Geyser Point Bar and Grill 5

Table Seating

Some cozier spaces with lower tables, though, encourage you to lounge for a while with a drink and some friends (made comfortable by the presence of ceiling fans OR heaters, depending on the weather). Speaking of weather, thanks to a DFB reader on Facebook, we now know that there are retractable walls/windows here so that the location can be completely enclosed!

Low Tables and Cushioned Seating

Low Tables and Cushioned Seating

Fans and Heaters on the Ceiling

Fans and Heaters on the Ceiling

And speaking of cozy, I’m going to make it a point to come back here some evening and enjoy the fireplace!

Fireplace

Fireplace

Honestly, due to Geyser Point being an outdoor location, I think I was expecting a rather glorified pool bar — which is not to say that the Disney Pool Bars aren’t tons of fun. In fact, some of them rank among my favorite vacation spots in Disney World. But Geyser Point decidedly has its own feel, making it a destination in and of itself.

And now, let’s check out what exactly is happening at the BAR and GRILL parts of Geyser Point :) !

Eats

Geyser Point blends two different dining styles (Table Service and Counter Service) and two different menus, with the unique feature that you can enjoy both styles at once if you wish — we’ll explain that a little later. First, let’s check out the bar menu, starting with the beverages.

Geyser Point Bar Menu

Geyser Point Bar Menu

The Featured Cocktails, it’s worth noting, are exclusive to Geyser Point, and they each feature at least one spirit from a Northwest distillery. Click the images to zoom in.

Featured Cocktails

Featured Cocktails

According to the bartenders, Huckleberry Punch will best suit fans of sweet drinks. The Cascadia Sangria Cocktail will err on the side of tart due to the use of merlot. The Northwest Iced Tea is, of course, a spin on a classic Long Island, made with Aviation Gin (from Portland, Oregon), which lends lavender and citrus flavors as opposed to juniper.

We’ll show you the rest of the beverage menu shortly, but we wanted to try one from the Featured list, so we went with the Black Cherry Mule. All drinks are served in plastic ware even at the bar area, which is to be expected in such close proximity to the main pool. In fact, while Trout Pass Pool Bar is closed for refurbishment, guests can be served their food and drink in the pool area as well.

Black Cherry Mule

Black Cherry Mule

The Black Cherry Mule is full of flavor, with the strength of the black cherry balanced by the zesty Ginger Beer and mildly sweet agave. Variations of Mules are popping up everywhere these days, and the black cherry offers an unexpected twist.

Black Cherry Mule

Black Cherry Mule

The Wine selections feature Northwest vineyards, primarily.

Wine Menu

Wine Menu

And the Beer menu even offers a few Northwest brewery choices, among others.

Beer Menu

Beer Menu

Of course, some tried-and-true Disney Pool Bar drinks can be found here, too.

Disney Pool Drinks

Disney Pool Drinks

There is also a bit of “Rustic Fare” on the bar menu (along with a few non-alcoholic drinks), made up of a selection of appetizers and small plates.

Rustic Fare and Non-Alcoholic Beverage Menu

Rustic Fare and Non-Alcoholic Beverage Menu

It was honestly a bit hard to choose, since the Rustic Fare menu offers some unique choices in the world of Disney World appetizers. It was NOT difficult, however, to realize we wanted to order the Cheesy Barbecue Brisket with house-made chips immediately (and, yes, that is a wooden board the whole thing is served on)!

Cheesy Barbecue Brisket with house made chips

Cheesy Barbecue Brisket with house-made chips

The Cheesy Barbecue Brisket is a shareable dip (IF you’re feeling generous ;) ) . The “cheesy” part is composed of Provolone and Tillamook Cheddar, and is garnished with a few jalapeño slices.

Cheesy Barbecue Brisket

Cheesy Barbecue Brisket

Oh, you can get as many chip refills as you need to polish off the dip!

House-made Chips

House-made Chips

Now, you may get as caught up as we did in the savory, mildly spicy, wonderful cheesy goodness of this dip-that-eats-like-a-meal. Even so, don’t forget to catch up on the “Specialty Times” lining your wooden plate ;) !

Specialty Times paper accent

Specialty Times paper accent

And, yeah… you guessed it. It pretty much comes with the job to ALWAYS order up any and all Charcuterie boards. (Tough work, but somebody’s gotta do it!)

Handcrafted Charcuterie

Handcrafted Charcuterie

The Handcrafted Charcuterie comes with sourdough crisps, prosciutto, salami, shaved parmesan reggiano, arugula, mini pickles, and honey grain mustard.

Handcrafted Charcuterie

Handcrafted Charcuterie

The side jar is filled with duck rillette (which resembles a pâté).

Duck Rillette

Duck Rillette

Prosciutto and Salamai

Prosciutto and Salami

In all, I’d have to say, “More cheese, please!” But aside from wanting another hearty cheese or two, I still thought the portion, plating, and cool addition of the rillette among the meat selections combine to make this a solid offering.

The seafood options we chose fall more under the category of “small plates,” starting with the Crispy Fried Oysters, which are served on top of shaved sweet potatoes with a Miso Tartar Sauce on the side.

Crispy Fried Oysters

Crispy Fried Oysters

Miso Tartar Sauce

Miso Tartar Sauce

Shaved Sweet Potatoes

Shaved Sweet Potatoes

The oysters were tasty, but a lot of that actually had to do with the breading.

Crispy Fried Oysters

Crispy Fried Oysters

These things were HEAVY on the bread, so the oyster flavor was somewhat hidden. Seafood lovers may be a bit deterred.

Fried Oyster cross-section

Fried Oyster cross-section

Finally, we chose the Shrimp on a Wire with Miso Lime Vinaigrette, togarashi, shishito peppers, and chili aioli.

Shrimp on a Wire with miso lime vinaigrette

Shrimp on a Wire with miso lime vinaigrette

The shrimp are smoked, and were also very fresh and spicy. Another winner.

Shrimp on a Wire

Shrimp on a Wire

So, we’ve gone over the full bar menu. But we’re not done yet! Geyser Point Bar & Grill also offers Quick Service fare, via a walkup window.

Quick Service Walkup Window

Quick Service Walkup Window

Breakfast, lunch, and dinner entrees are all available here. Alas, we’re out of Specialty Mickey Waffles until the Roaring Fork’s refurbishment is complete. But items like the Eggs Benedict (served on a Cheddar Biscuit!), Crab Cake Eggs Benedict, Maple Cinnamon Pancakes and Apple Compote, and Smoked Salmon Everything Bialy (as opposed to a standard bagel) can fill the void… for now ;) .

Breakfast Menu

Breakfast Menu

The lunch and dinner menu offers some Counter Service items that you’d expect, with a Smoked Turkey Sandwich and Classic Bacon Cheeseburger. But a Bison Cheeseburger, Grilled Salmon BLT, and Grilled Portobello Salad up the Counter Service ante a bit.

Lunch and Dinner Menu

Lunch and Dinner Menu

Here’s the thing: yes, you can order from the walkup window. You’ll receive a number and they’ll bring your food to your table when it’s ready, or you can carry it over to the pool or what have you, as per usual.

But let’s say you’re perfectly happy at your seat in the bar and dining area, yet you’d prefer a meal over the appetizers. Well, good news! Your server can bring you the Counter Service menu, as well as take your order and deliver your food right to you, so it’s a pretty cool set up.

Table Menu for Counter Service options

Table Menu for Counter Service options

We ordered the Bison Cheeseburger which, like the other burgers and sandwiches, is served with Waffle Fries (unless you opt for the Multi-Grain Salad as your side).

Bison Cheeseburger and Waffle Fries

Bison Cheeseburger and Waffle Fries

Bison Cheeseburger

Bison Cheeseburger

The toppings here are pretty hefty, with Tillamook Cheddar, sweet onion straws and Marionberry Barbecue Sauce covering the bison meat (with tomato and lettuce underneath), so this next picture gives a better idea of the burger itself.

Bison Cheeseburger cross-section

Bison Cheeseburger cross-section

It’s cool to have the option of the leaner bison meat, and I thought this sandwich was prepared well. I especially enjoyed the Marionberry Barbecue Sauce, which has a tart-and-sweet tang as opposed to a typical barbecue — a great, tasty touch.

The Lump Crab Cake Sandwich was another nice surprise (and is also accompanied by the Waffle Fries).

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich with Waffle Fries

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich with Waffle Fries

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich

Toppings here include a spicy cabbage-carrot slaw (which I honestly didn’t find to be particularly spicy), while the Crab Cake is served over some of the house-made Canadian Bacon, which you’ll also find on the Eggs Benedict from the Breakfast menu.

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich

The crab cake was completely PACKED with crab, with hardly any bread filler at all; just enough to bind.

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich cross-section

Lump Crab Cake Sandwich cross-section

It’s also grilled instead of fried, so that great crab flavor really comes through.

For dessert, the options are a Chocolate Brownie Mousse with caramel popcorn and toasted meringue, and a Seasonal Pie. I was expecting something along the lines of the Counter Service Apple Blossom-type staple, but I was SO wrong! I was pleased to find out that the seasonal selection is starting out with a Dried Cranberry and Apple Pie.

Seasonal Dried Cranberry and Apple Pie

Seasonal Dried Cranberry and Apple Pie

There was a TON of fruit inside the buttery shell (this cross-section picture shows just half of the fruit inside).

Seasonal Dried Cranberry and Apple Pie cross-section

Seasonal Dried Cranberry and Apple Pie cross-section

Seasonal Dried Cranberry and Apple Pie cross-section

Seasonal Dried Cranberry and Apple Pie cross-section

It’s a pretty nice change of pace from your typical Quick Service dessert, and was a nice way to end our first — but definitely not last — stop at Geyser Point Bar & Grill.

Overall

You know, I really wasn’t sure what to expect from Geyser Point Bar & Grill, with its unusual  bar-meets-Counter-Service-meets-Table Service hybrid setup. Turns out, it totally works! Geyser Point offers service styles and flavors — with just enough cohesion in the Northwest-themed menu options — to meet a range of tastes and guest needs in a setting that will please… well, just about anybody, in my opinion! There really seems to be something for everyone here.

Also, we were originally concerned that there were no windows here and that the location was all open-air, all the time. We were told by a DFB reader on Facebook, however, that there are retractable walls/windows here so it is an all-weather spot! Yay!!

So, do you want to make this a destination, or should you just save this spot for the next time you’re at the Wilderness Lodge pool? Well…that depends. If you’re like me and love hanging out in a relaxing location with access to pretty good food and some fun drinks, then it’s worth a trip over to Wilderness Lodge. If you’re visiting Disney World with your family, working from a spreadsheet schedule, and packing your days with theme park fun, then it’s probably not your best use of time to come all the way over to Geyser Point. I will say that this is a welcome addition to Wilderness Lodge, and the guests staying at this resort will likely very much enjoy the dining spot.

If Geyser Point gives any indication of what’s to come as we anticipate another dining option, refurbishments to long-loved spots, and further amenities coming to Wilderness Lodge, then it makes me even more excited to see — and taste — more soon!

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First Look and Review of Geyser Point Bar and Grill at Disney’s Wilderness Lodge

What are your thoughts on Geyser Point Bar & Grill from what you’ve seen so far? Please let us know with a comment!

Comments

  1. Frank says

    Wow, where to start.
    Looks nice. BUT
    First… who paid you to write this??? I’ve not read this much of a biased rah-rah-pro- Disney review in a LONG time.
    Second, it looks to be an open air structure where the summer rains will just blow everyone away… on a daily basis.
    That tiny shrimp thingie for $ 13??
    $ 4 per oyster??? Seriously??
    Charcuterie tray that is half bread and pickles. There was no cheese on that plate to speak of.
    The wines leave me wanting!!!
    I’ve stayed at WL many, many times. Absolutely love it. Really liked Roaring Fork. Hope this can come somewhere close until RF is back.
    Personally, I’m not impressed one iota!!
    Have to be honest. Want to go back to Disney, since we haven’t been since late October, but then…. I see reviews like this with food like this and continually shake my head in disbelief.

  2. Nicole says

    I would love to see something like this at the Boardwalk! Anything to not have to get a reservation 180 days out for a nice place to sit and eat.

  3. says

    Just a suggestion from the food allergy community. It would be great if you could include a picture of the food allergy menus in your reviews. Thanks for your consideration!

  4. Patrick says

    I echo your sentiments in that it seems lovely and appropriately themed as an extension to the Wilderness Lodge vibe. While they made a fine effort to extend that feeling with the menu (salmon, bison, oysters, et. al.), I’d have to agree with Scott that the pricing, at least for the bar menu, is ostentatious for a “grill and bar.” Further, when I first saw pictures and video of this spot yesterday, my first thoughts were that the open air concept isn’t going to work when it’s pouring rain as all the seats on the perimeter will get soaked. And when it turns muggy and buggy mid-summer? Despite the ceiling fans, it could be a bit uncomfortable. I do have one question in regards to the open air structure. In some of the pictures I’ve seen, it appears they may have installed rails and possibly pull-down shades or barriers of some sort along the slanted floor beams. Did you notice such when you were there, or is that just an optical illusion?

  5. says

    With the closure of Roaring Fork, does this mean WL is without a refillable mug station? I hope the new pool brings an additional station to the resort.

    But…the food looks great! Can’t wait to try the crab cake sandwich and the bison burger. Wilderness Lodge is my favorite resort by far.

  6. Suzanne says

    This looks like a great addition for lunch and dinner. Although I’m a little bummed that roaring forks will be closed when we are there. It seems as if they’ll have no grab and go type things before you make your way to the dock. Sometimes we like the option of a quick coffee and pastry in the morning.

  7. TC says

    It’s a blog, not the New York Times food critic’s column. Although I’m sure the blogger would love to receive hefty payments for every post. If I ever get back to the World, I’ll definitely stop by here for a craft beer with a Bay Lake view.

  8. Essie says

    If you reread the article you’ll see that it says that the entire eatery can be enclosed for bad weather. That should comfort those who are concerned about rain and bugs!

  9. Sharon Merrill says

    Yes, where is the refillable mug station? We are coming in March with young grand children. I need to know where this is now located.

  10. Mike V says

    Whoa…..I understand roaring fork did not have adequate seating, but you’re telling me this place is supposed to house everyone for breakfast?

    Have to agree also that the prices seem a little outrageous…..the 3 shrimp for $13 makes me laugh!

  11. Jeff says

    Looks like a great addition.
    And what a great review. Thank you.

    I get the feeling “Frank” is a bit prematurely biased against this place. That comment was beyond lame.
    Go away Troll!

    Just made my September reservation for Wilderness Lodge this morning.
    Geyser Point has me extra fired up!!!

  12. Frank says

    Jeff,
    Sorry you don’t like the fact we have a free country and are allowed opinions.
    The liberal-socialists are being pushed back in favor of Freedom of Opposing Comment.
    If there is a “comment” section on these boards, be prepared for them or stay away.
    I feel all my comments and questions are fair and balanced as they say.
    I missed the section on the enclosures… sorry
    I was in no way, nor will I ever be condescending or foul mouthed such as you with your “troll” response.
    I feel the prices are out of line, the portions small, and I don’t like the wine list. What “prematurity” has to do with this is beyond comprehension. If you read the other comments, I’m obviously I’m not alone on some of my points.
    I will call out a reviewer too if I feel he or she is too “pro-Disney.”
    You and anyone are encouraged to go, sample the goods, and report back.
    One of my big issues with all of these boards is the lack of reporting back over time.
    Frank

  13. says

    Patrick — A reader on Facebook alerted us to retractable walls and windows, so the whole area can be enclosed as needed, it seems.

  14. says

    Suzanne — Territory Lounge will be offering continental breakfast and coffee until 2:00PM daily. I’m not sure about grab and go, but I’d expect there will be something offered either at Territory Lounge or Geyser Point.

  15. says

    Daniel, Sharon, and Judy — The refillable mug station is located just to the right of the Geyser Point counter service area. (Daniel — Me toooooo! I love Wilderness Lodge!)

  16. says

    Frank — I paid me to write this!! :-D You know we pay for everything we eat (and on the rare occasion that we don’t, we tell you at the end of the post who invited us to try something), every hotel we stay in, every plane flight, every park ticket, etc… . Anyway, great points on the costs; probably too expensive, which is NOT surprising these days at WDW. But the food was very good, and I really like the concept of a *substantial* bar and grill at the pool. Many other resorts around Orlando and in other vacation hot spots offer this type of thing and Disney is just now getting on the trend. Oasis Pool Bar at the Poly offers a similar set-up, but it’s much more counter-service-y. If WL is going to call itself a deluxe resort, they need to have better offerings at the pool. So this is a step in the right direction.

    And we realized after we wrote this that they do have retractable walls and windows so that the whole place can be enclosed. I added that section to the post after you read it initially most likely. But I was with you — I had no idea why Disney would put something like this out there with no walls/windows! Luckily, they didn’t.

    Keep commenting and letting me know your opinions! You’ve been here almost as long as I have, and I love it.

  17. says

    Scott and Jeff — Ha ha! Maybe I can get him to come with me someday. :-D Frank’s been commenting on DFB almost as long as I’ve been writing it. I’d love to meet him and treat him to dinner…at someplace he likes, of course! If you can stick with me this long, you deserve a reward! :-D

  18. says

    Mike V — Territory Lounge will also serve a continental breakfast, so that’s something. And hopefully the pricing will come in line. THat actually does happen now and again…not often…but we can hope!

  19. Frank says

    AJ,
    Thx for your note.
    Sadly, you are right. Seems everything is “so expensive” at Disney. I don’t see how families can afford this stuff.
    I should stop complaining about the expense, since it IS a given anymore. I do have questions about value for price paid. As we travel around, there is markedly better value for dollar paid, and it truly bums me out. I’ve been visiting Disney long enough that I remember when you paid a lot, but you left feeling you definitely received your moneys worth. Imho, that’s in question now. Disney seems to be doing so much to cheapen the “brand.” But I understand lots of guests haven’t been to Disney in the day when Arial’s was a restaurant, the Beach Club lobby looked like a beach club, there was a band in the Beach Club lobby, you had turn down and candy left on the pillow every night, Disney made Mickey silhouette glazed jelly donuts, no ADR was needed for B&C, we could go to Flying Fish 3 nights in a row, eat off the appetizer menu, never repeat items, and be extremely happy… I could go on and on. But there is a new generation of guests growing up to what Disney has to offer, and they want to be happy about it. And they are entitled to that joy. If they are happy, then so be it. Frank

  20. Kimberly H. says

    I love the look of this new area and the food looks great. The retractable walls are a good idea, but I can see being a problem with high-maintenance guests (one table wants them closed, others want them open, etc.).

  21. tkcanada says

    I think the decor looks great (love the comfy seating areas) and I find the menu appealing.
    I’m from Canada so when I look at a price I am multiplying it by about 1.40 these days to convert it into Canadian dollars– then it becomes really expensive- argh! That $13 appetizer just became $18 for me.

  22. Renee says

    We will be staying at Boulder a Ridge Villas at WL in June. This place looks wonderful! I am a tad disappointed we might miss Roaring Fork but Getser Poibt looks like a good substitution.

  23. Ron says

    DW and I love to pool bar hop. Looks like this one is a must for both the view and drink menu! It’s one of the more difficult ones to get to but looks like we’ll go for it in a month!! Thanks for all the info. Ron

  24. Kelly says

    I think this place looks really cool. Of course the prices seem a bit high, but honestly… isn’t everything a little pricey in WDW?? If the food tastes good, then it will be worth it!
    I’m wondering about the dining plan? We’ll be staying at the villas in June, so I’d love to try that bison burger!
    Thanks for all the reviews AJ! I love checking out what’s new before a trip.

  25. Stephanie says

    How long is Roaring Forks supposed to be under refurbishment? We are visiting for the first time in September, and would rather be able to eat inside the lodge, and get the mickey waffles! Hopefully it is scheduled to be done by then because as a previous commenter said, I don’t see that place able to hold many families for breakfast. Once both places are open I’m sure things are going to be running great around there!

  26. stefan says

    hi, this new location is strictly walk up right? even for the table service portion? I ask because what if you just want to go to the Lodge for awhile to eat here, but you don’t have a room or dining reservation? They wont let you in. We were turned away at the Grand Floridian for not having a dining reservation a couple weeks ago even though we just wanted to come in and grab lunch at the grand floridian cafe which is never really booked. It use to be so easy to go to and from the resorts just for dining and or shopping, now your not allowed to do that anymore unless your staying there or have a concrete dining reservation. so any suggestions? thanks

  27. says

    Stefan — Was the day you visited the Grand Floridian a particularly busy one? That does happen on high volume days, like Super Bowl Sunday. Otherwise, we haven’t heard of permanent restrictions. Yes, it’s strictly walk up, as it’s a combination quick service and bar. Best of luck — and let us know if you continue to have issues with accessing resorts.

  28. stefan says

    hi Brooke, it was a regular week day last week, normally we do make a dining reservation but this time we didnt as the grand floridian cafe is never booked even tho they do accept reserves. Well the security guard refused to let us in without a reservation of any kind. I thought they had only done this during the holidays which makes sense….but now it seems its all restricted, they arent exactly friendly about it either. So how will we get into the Lodge to eat if the new restaurant doesnt take reservations? This is also a problem at the Beach Club, we would sometimes go there on a whim to eat at Beaches and Cream, they wont allow you into there anymore either unless you have a reservation.

  29. Jean says

    I was very excited to try Geyser Point on opening day, and you guys are right… it looks lovely (especially with that waterfront setting), and my bison burger was phenomenal. Although I love Disney waffle fries, I tried the “multi-grain salad,” which was basically a quinoa salad. Also very tasty. As a local resident, I will definitely return to WL for a “Geyser Point date night.” One concern is that a lot of the seating is low cushion-type chairs, which means you have to crouch over if you’re eating food. (There are some tables in the lounge area as well, but not many.) Fortunately, there are umbrella tables closer to the pool that are also available. I think, at least until Roaring Fork reopens, that Geyser Point might get slammed at breakfast time, since there are only 2 cash registers serving breakfast entrees to the entire resort. Many guests will probably just visit Territory Lounge for coffee & pastries, but there’s going to be a big volume of breakfast-goers at GP for the next few months, I bet.

  30. Frank says

    Thought
    1) try saying you are going to Meizner’s.
    2) if you have Tables in Wonderland, have your car parked.
    3) make a last minute ADR. I’ve done that. Made reservations from MK for Grand Cafe, sailed over.

  31. says

    Stefan — I can understand your frustration. I can only assume it has to do with the fact that the Grand Floridian is on the monorail line to the Magic Kingdom, and they have seen an uptick in people attempting to park there to avoid parking fees at Magic Kingdom. I can see the same happening at Beach Club, with its close proximity to Epcot.

    While I haven’t attempted to go to Wilderness Lodge recently (I’m local, too), I just read a comment from another reader that they didn’t have a problem parking at WL to go to lunch at Geyser Point. Hopefully, the resorts will continue to welcome “day traffic” like you and me. If they don’t, here’s hoping that Disney makes their policy consistent, so we at least know.

    As far as accessing the GF Cafe, if you are deciding last-minute to eat there, might you hop on to the My Disney Experience and make a quick ADR? Or are you passholders? If so, you could take advantage of parking at MK, and take a monorail over. I know it’s a pain, but it would at least get you to the GF for dinner and a lovely stroll.

    Again, I get the frustration. I miss the days when we had a bit more freedom to roam through Disney as well.

  32. JoAnn says

    What happens when there is rain and wind blowing, which is a regular occurrence in FL.? Also, a recommendation for salad with lots of veggies, like the make your own salad food courts. How late will they be opened? Will the food be offered late, too?

  33. says

    JoAnn — There are retractable walls, which will most likely be in place during heat/inclement weather. Current posted times are 7:00AM — 12:00 midnight, but that will probably vary seasonally.

  34. Ryan says

    I keep hearing mixed messages regarding the refurbishment at Trout Pass Pool Bar. This article (and a couple others) say that Trout Pass is PERMANENTLY closed. However, Disney themselves, and a bunch of other sites say that it’s simply being refurbished and will re-open along with Roaring Fork.

    So, what is the truth here? I like Geyser Point, but it looks to be further away from the Main Pool than Trout Pass was. This makes ordering drinks poolside more inconvenient, which is rather disappointing :-(

  35. says

    Ryan — Honestly, you never know until something happens! :-D We will hold out hope with you that Trout Pass will return — or staff will roam the pool area and take drink orders so that guests can chill.

  36. Lisa P says

    Whenever I read about the WL these days, I feel sad. We loved this place even though the rooms were tight for a deluxe-ish resort, the quick serve was the first rate and we always requested a room close by. Eating a wilderness salad from Roaring Forks, which is the best salad on property, outside on the patio, you had such a pleasant view. Then they ‘caged’ the pool (some places have a 5ft. fence )and put in a kiddie play area. The sight lines of this beautifully designed courtyard were ruined. You can’t even see the geysers anymore unless you’re practically on to of them. They just keep building more and more here, with more expensive food options. Some may say stop whining about the olden days, but that’s what made it special, or ‘magical’ if you prefer. They have taken the wilderness out of the Wilderness lodge.

  37. Lisa P says

    AND I agree with the comments about prices and value. It used to be we that would eat more table service meals and would try different places and dishes on a whim, but with the prices they have now, I rely on on reviews like yours to determine whether it’s worth first. Thank you.

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