Florida’s Parental Rights in Education Bill (what critics call the “Don’t Say Gay” Bill) is a topic that has been discussed a great deal over the past several weeks.
From Disney’s initial statement to CEO Bob Chapek’s comments on the Company’s formal stance on the Bill, and everything in between, we’ve been sharing all kinds of updates on the topic with you. Now, a former Disney Executive has weighed in on why he spoke out about the issue and why (and when) others should comment on major issues.
According to Deadline, former Disney CEO, Bob Iger, recently appeared on Chris Wallace’s new CNN+ series. During the interview, Iger discussed why corporate leaders should “wade into major issues, like climate change, immigration and, most recently, Florida’s so-called ‘don’t say gay’ bill.'”
Iger shared “A lot of these issues are not necessarily political. It’s about right and wrong.”
As The Wall Street Journal had previously reported, the “Florida bill prohibits instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity from kindergarten to third grade and in later grades if not ‘age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students.'”
As The Hill shares, as a result of this (now) Law, “classroom instruction related to sexual orientation or gender identity will be restricted in the state’s primary schools. Educators of all grade levels are prohibited from engaging in instruction on those topics in a manner that is not ‘age appropriate or developmentally appropriate’ for children.”
Iger has, in fact, commented on Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” Bill. In a Twitter post from February of 2022, Iger shared that the Bill, if passed, would put “vulnerable, young LGBTQ people in jeopardy.” The Bill has since been signed into law.
In the interview with Wallace, Iger shared that, in his opinion, it “wasn’t about politics. It is about what is right and what is wrong, and that just seemed wrong. It seemed potentially harmful to kids.”
I'm with the President on this! If passed, this bill will put vulnerable, young LGBTQ people in jeopardy. https://t.co/fJZBzre4yM
— Robert Iger (@RobertIger) February 25, 2022
Disney did make an initial statement, and Chapek later sent a memo generally on the topic. But, early on Chapek did not make an official statement regarding the Bill, saying instead that corporate statements can be “weaponized by one side or the other to further divide and inflame.”
But, in the days and weeks that followed, Chapek ultimately shared an official look at the Company’s stance on the Bill, apologized for not being a stronger ally to the LGBTQ community, and promised further action.
In Iger’s interview with Wallace, he discussed “going public” on major issues like climate change, immigration, and more. Iger shared that he had to contend with this a number of times and used a specific filter to determine whether he should or should not weigh in.
Iger noted that he would consider a number of factors: “What would its impact have on our employees, on our shareholders and our customers?” Iger shared, “if any one of those three constituencies had a deep interest in or would be affected by whatever was the matter at hand, then it was something I thought we should consider weighing in on.”
Wallace asked Iger whether any consideration was also given to the fact that he would “tick off people” one way or the other for making a statement on an issue. Wallace noted “There are going to be people who aren’t going to like what [you] are saying and maybe that means fewer people will come to the theme park.”
Iger said that they never really saw much evidence of that “even though there were threats about boycotts on certain thing.” According to Iger, “when you are dealing with right and wrong, and when you are dealing with something that does have a profound impact on your business, I just think you have to do what is right and not worry about the potential backlash to it.”
In another part of the interview, Wallace asked Iger some questions regarding his salary at Disney as an executive and the salary of Disney’s workers. During the interview, Wallace played a clip from a documentary entitled The American Dream and Other Fairy Tales, which was co-directed by Abigail Disney (the granddaughter of Roy O. Disney). The documentary discusses the Disney Company’s “wide disparity in pay between hourly theme park workers and Iger’s CEO compensation.”
Back in January of this year, we shared that, according to the report submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission, in 2021 Chapek made $32.46 million, and Iger made $45.9 million. This was more than double the salary figures from 2020, which were $14.1 million for Chapek and $21 million for Iger. Though that large difference might have to do, in part, with the big pay cuts taken in 2020 due to the pandemic, among other things.
In the interview Wallace pointed out that Iger was making 1,000 times what the average Disney employee was making and asked whether Iger had any “misgivings” about that. In response, Iger said, “I’ve never been defensive about what I made. I was paid at a level that was commensurate with what most heads of large media companies were paid throughout my tenure and often less than, interestingly enough, and Disney was among the most complex and the largest and the most successful of them all.”
Iger also noted that Disney created many more jobs (especially in the U.S.) during his tenure and gave people more opportunities. Iger also noted that many who got minimum wage “earned overtime, got good benefits and were promoted over time as well.” He also discussed the start of the Disney Aspire program, which helps “pick up the cost of workers’ education.”
In terms of regrets, Iger did note that he has one. According to Iger, Disney was “one of the first companies…to go to $10 an hour as the starting wage.” Iger shared that they were “being pushed to go to 15,” but “there was some hesitation in that regard because of the cost associated with it.” According to Iger they “should have done that right away,” at least in his opinion.
As noted above, the Disney Company and CEO Bob Chapek have since taken a more firm stance on Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” bill (now law). When the Bill was signed into law, the Company issued an official statement noting that it “should never have passed and should never have been signed into law.”
Statement from The Walt Disney Company on signing of Florida legislation: pic.twitter.com/UVI7Ko3aKS
— Walt Disney Company (@WaltDisneyCo) March 28, 2022
To see more about the law and other updates that had been previously shared about this topic, click the links below:
- Disney issues statement as Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” bill is signed into law.
- Disney issues statement on “Don’t Say Gay” bill (now law)
- Disney CEO Bob Chapek comments on the Bill (now law)
- Chapek comments on the Company’s stance on the Bill (now law) and actions moving forward
- Chapek issues apology following Disney’s response to Bill (now law)
- Human Rights Campaign rejects Disney’s donation and issues response
- Disney employees plan walkouts in response to Bill (now law)
- California governor addresses Disney following responses to the Bill (now law)
- Same-sex kiss put back into “Lightyear” after criticism of Disney’s response to the Bill (now law)
- Chapek addresses the Florida Bill (now law) and assures further changes during Company meeting
- Supportive LGBTQIA+ statements shared by Disney ahead of planned walkouts
- Learn more about the walkouts
- See more about Disney’s response to the passage of the bill into Law
- See the Florida Governor’s comments about Disney’s response
This continues to be a developing situation. We’ll look for more updates.
Randy C says
Sad. Disney used to be such a fun, family oriented organization. I still disagree with Disney on this matter. They and others have largely misrepresented what this bill does, to stake out a position in favor of LGBTQ. When an American corporation jumps into politics, they run the risk of alienating 50% of their customers and employees. A matter needs to rise to that level of importance, which this matter doesn’t. Chapek’s first response was the best so far; stay out of it.
We don’t condone discrimination against LGBTQ people or any other group. We don’t appreciate LGBTQ “in our face” advocacy either.
RonJon says
It’s true that nowhere in the bill has the words “don’t say gay”, but that what it implies. But advocates aren’t insisting the sexual orientation should be taught at the lower grades. It seems that their concern is that the Neo-Cons are trying deny their existence. The sad thing is that the bill is based on religious beliefs, not education. I believe and stand for parent’s rights, but I also believe in the separation of Church and State. Some People are complaining and demanding that Disney should stay out of politics. Perhaps they should (as well as all private companies), but religion should also stay out of politics. They can’t have it both ways.
Alan says
Randy C’s comment is spot on. I think that Disney runs the risk of alienating far more than 50% of their employees and customers. For that reason, Disney should stay out of politics and concentrate on entertainment.
Jules says
Ronjon, thank you! So true. The very people complaining about Disney (finally) supporting the LGBTQ+ community (many members of which are also Disney employees) want our laws to reflect their religious views and think the entire population should be required to follow them. I’ve never seen an actual example of the educational materials for K-3rd grade students that are teaching the children about sexual orientation and gender issues. No one is teaching kids to be gay or transgender. Recognizing the existence of those who are gay and transgender is not telling others to turn gay or transgender. But this law is written so vaguely that it can be interpreted exactly that way by those who want to pretend the LGBTQ+ community doesn’t exist or is sinful because that’s what their religion says.
Martin says
Speaking as a once upon a time straight Cast Member I am saddened that the Disney Company has chosen this course. There is little difference between the LGBTQ lobby of my time there within the organization and the apparent pressure from “somewhere” to participate in this trendy sham.
I went on to another large company that set rules and regulations for employees to follow with constant training that all employees knew the limits of interactions with fellow employees.
I believe The “Grand Man” would be turning in his grave to know his beautiful Brand had fallen to these depths.
J says
I hope WDW, fights this law. There were never any discrimination at the parks. DiSantis is somebody’s puppet?
Is WDW becoming a puppet? Please think the right way as Mr Disney did. Do not ruin the experience.
Joe says
Another vote for Disney, Chapek, and Iger. Thank you for doing the right thing and thanks for the reporting. The law is nothing more than dog whistles for a segment of the voting public…solving problems that don’t exist.
Sean says
Another vote against Chapek. There are a lot of Disney employees he abandoned who are for the bill, not to mention the division he has now caused amongst people who used to enjoy Disney. Just look at the comments on any news article regarding this law. It’s all about a small groups of employees at Disney. The law is in place as a protection against a minority segment of the public who would think there isn’t an actual problem.
William says
Maybe this comment will be approved.
Nobody is persecuting LBGTQ or say they shouldn’t exist. This law is rightfully saying that young kids, 8 and younger, should be taught this by their parents, when they feel it’s the appropriate time, and not in the classroom